Wait, Brent may have written that and I missattributed the quote.

On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:51 AM, Stephen Paul King <
stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote:

> Dear Bruno,
>
>    You wrote: "Comp does not predict the existence of the moon, but
> should predict the physical laws, that is, what is invariant for all
> observers/machines. "
>
>   That is the same as my definition of a "reality" for *all*
> observers/machines!
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 10 Jan 2014, at 22:51, meekerdb wrote:
>>
>>  On 1/10/2014 1:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>
>>
>>  On 09 Jan 2014, at 23:00, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>>
>>  Dear LizR,
>>
>>    That is the key question that remains, IMHO, unanswered.
>>
>>
>>  It is answered, completely.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:45 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   On 10 January 2014 10:33, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I think the question is whether comp determines that the world is
>>>> (locally) Lorentz invariant.  If it is, then c is just a unit conversion
>>>> factor between the + and - signature terms.  It's value is arbitrary, like
>>>> "how many feet in a mile", which is why it is now an exact number in SI
>>>> units.
>>>>
>>>  Oh yes, I seem to remember that physicists like to set c (and h?) to 1.
>>>
>>>  So does comp predict that any TOE will have a unique solution - namely
>>> the one we experience?
>>>
>>
>>  Only from what we have just experienced before. Comp does not predict
>> the existence of the moon, but should predict the physical laws, that is,
>> what is invariant for all observers/machines.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    So is this an alternative to the WAP - we experience a universe
>>> compatible with our existence because such a universe has to drop out of
>>> the interations of conscious beings in Platonia?
>>>
>>
>>  As I said, comp uses only a conditional probability, not a bayesian
>> relation, which can still be used for geography and history. But the
>> physical laws are defined by the general measure on the computation, which
>> must exist with comp, and is given by the material points of view (Bp & Dt,
>> mainly).
>>
>>
>>
>> But can you prove within comp that there must be physical laws,
>>
>>
>> Yes. If not (that is if the physical laws were only the calssical boolean
>> tuatologies), the material hypostases would have collapse into
>> propositional calculus. So we are assured that some physics exists for any
>> universal machines, and is the same for all of them.
>>
>>
>>
>> can you prove that solipism is false,
>>
>>
>> Not yet, although Z1* suggests it to be false, as it should give the
>> first person plural. Everett of course suggests that it exists empirically,
>> and so comp should confirms that. The quantum nature of the Bp & Dt on the
>> sigma_1 sentences shows that comp might indeed refute solipsism
>> (statistically).
>>
>>
>> that it's not ALL geography and we have nothing to thank for our
>> existence but WAP?
>>
>>
>> Only arithmetic.
>>
>> Bruno
>>
>>
>>
>> Brent
>>
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