condescending dismissal in 3... 2... 1...
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:27 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > On 15 January 2014 06:53, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Liz, >> >> See my response to Brent on consciousness of an hour ago. It answers this >> question... >> >> Actually to answer your question properly you have to define 'person', >> what you mean by an 'AI' and what you mean by a 'simulation'. In the >> details of those definitions will be your answer... It's arbitrary and ill >> formed as asked.... >> > > Yeah, unlike waffle about "it's really real because it's real in the real > actual world, really, because I say so" (insert eye-rolling emoticon here) > > OK, let's say we simulate you in a virtual world. Or, to get a particular > scenario, let's assume some aliens with advanced technology turned up last > night and scanned your body, and created a computer model of it. We won't > worry about subtleties like substitution levels and whether "you" are > actually duplicated in the process. It's enough for the present discussion > that the simulated Edgar feels it's you, believes it's you, thinks its you, > and appears to have a body like yours which it can move around, just as you > do, in a world just like the one you're living in (they have also modelled > the Earth and its surroundings. Using nanotechnology they can do all this > inside a relatively small space). The simulated Edgar will think just like > you, assuming your thoughts are, in fact, the product of computation in > your brain, and it has your memories, because the aliens were able to model > the part of your brain that stores them. > > So, sim-Edgar wakes up the next morning and believes himself to be > earth-Edgar. > > Would he know, or discover at some point, that he's a simulation in a > virtual world, and if so, how? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
