Liz, No Liz, that's not it. That's a different argument. Obviously you don't know it....
Edgar On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 5:59:21 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: > > On 16 January 2014 11:53, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote: > >> Liz, >> >> Do you know what my argument is? Quentin also claimed it was invalid but >> he couldn't tell us what the argument is that he claims is invalid. Do you >> know? >> >> You argued as follows: > > The proof is simply the fact that the time traveling twins meet up again > with different clock times, but always in the exact same present moment. > This proves beyond any doubt there are two kinds of time, clock time which > varies by relativistic observer, and the time of the present moment (what > I call P-time) which is absolute and common to all observers across the > universe. > > When this is realized there are a number of profound implications. > > First that time travel outside the common present moment is impossible > since all of reality (the entire universe) exists within/is the common > present moment. The only time travel that is possible is having different > clock times within the same shared present moment. > > Second, that this is compatible with only one cosmological geometry, named > that the universe is a 4-dimensional hypersphere with P-time (not clock > time) as its continually extending radial dimension. That is cosmological > space is positively curved and finite. In fact we all see all 4-dimensions > of this geometry all the time and visually verify this, as the radial > P-time dimension is seen as distance in every direction from every point in > the 3-dimensional space of the hypersphere's surface. > > What amazes me is that no one recognized this simple obvious fact prior to > my stating it in my 1997 paper 'Spacetime and Consciousness'. It's a great > example of how the trivially obvious can remain unrecognized, no matter how > important, if it isn't part of the accepted world view of, in this case, > either common sense or science..... > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

