Liz,

No Liz, that's not it. That's a different argument. Obviously you don't 
know it....

Edgar



On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 5:59:21 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
>
> On 16 January 2014 11:53, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> Liz,
>>
>> Do you know what my argument is? Quentin also claimed it was invalid but 
>> he couldn't tell us what the argument is that he claims is invalid. Do you 
>> know?
>>
>> You argued as follows:
>
> The proof is simply the fact that the time traveling twins meet up again 
> with different clock times, but always in the exact same present moment. 
> This proves beyond any doubt there are two kinds of time, clock time which 
> varies by relativistic observer, and the time of the present moment (what 
> I call P-time) which is absolute and common to all observers across the 
> universe.
>
> When this is realized there are a number of profound implications. 
>
> First that time travel outside the common present moment is impossible 
> since all of reality (the entire universe) exists within/is the common 
> present moment. The only time travel that is possible is having different 
> clock times within the same shared present moment.
>
> Second, that this is compatible with only one cosmological geometry, named 
> that the universe is a 4-dimensional hypersphere with P-time (not clock 
> time) as its continually extending radial dimension. That is cosmological 
> space is positively curved and finite. In fact we all see all 4-dimensions 
> of this geometry all the time and visually verify this, as the radial 
> P-time dimension is seen as distance in every direction from every point in 
> the 3-dimensional space of the hypersphere's surface.
>
> What amazes me is that no one recognized this simple obvious fact prior to 
> my stating it in my 1997 paper 'Spacetime and Consciousness'. It's a great 
> example of how the trivially obvious can remain unrecognized, no matter how 
> important, if it isn't part of the accepted world view of, in this case, 
> either common sense or science.....
>
>

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