Hi Stephen
> On 17 January 2014 09:33, Stephen Paul King <stephe...@provensecure.com>wrote: > The first part is right, but within a given foliation, there is an ordering >> of events. It's only when comparing foliations that you get different >> orders. (I believe this is called proper time or something?) Time doesn't >> vanish within a foliation. >> > > Right, it doesn't vanish within a foliation, but if we add or integrate > them together it does. If i got the math right... > That's a surprise (to me at least). Foliations are just viewpoints, I believe, and essentially arbitrary [added later - as you say below]. If you summed all *possible* foliations, I'd expect you'd get space-time (assuming the notion of summing them all makes sense...) > >>>> >>> Existence is a priori -eternal-, properties are a posteriori - after the >>> fact of measurement. >>> >> >> Yes, this is the problem with the "ontological argument" (and probably >> with "Edgar's first postulate" too). >> > > I am trying to use avoid the problem by using a ontological foundation > that is eternal, thus no absolute notions of "before" or "after". Neutral > existence, having no particular properties by having ALL properties. > Or rather timeless? (Of course comp does that, with Platonia!) I agree this is the sort of ontology we should look for, which is one reason I find comp attractive even if I don't follow it all (but Bruno has promised to give more lessons!) > >>>> That is all correct, The point is that there is no prefered foliation, >>>> no special narrative for all the events. >>>> >>> Yes indeed. Hence "relativity" ! But space-time itself is (within SR) is preferred (so to speak). That is, there is one block universe, within SR, in which (I believe) each point can be uniquely labelled. > >>>> I thought momentum was space's cc, and energy was time's??? Or am I >>>> getting mixed up with something else? >>>> >>> > You got it right. > > :-D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
