Stephen, Yes, I understand not necessarily moving in space but just moving in the sense of being actively computed. That's what I am talking about. Thought that was understood...
And I do NOT take perception as passive. It's an ACTIVE computation, a computational interaction with the program of an organism with that of sensory information input from the external world's computations. I thought that was understood also.. And there is no SEPARATE computational space (that needs to be proposed). There is ONLY computational space. All actual reality is the current computational results of that computational space. There is no actual classical physical world. The notion of a physical material world is an INTERPRETATION of the information results of the computational space in the mind of some observer. It's the way the information is modeled or simulated by a mind. Edgar On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 2:05:38 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > Dear Edgar, > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net<javascript:> > > wrote: > > Stephen, > > It's an error to assume that perception has anything to do with things > moving. > > > No, No! Not moving in a space- changing position coordinates, but some > form of motion. For example, the spin of an electron is a form of motion, > but it is not moving in the usual sense. > > > > The current information state of the entire universe is continually being > computed whether it's being perceived by anyone or not. Perception has > nothing to do with it except apparently in the erroneous block time and UD > theories which seem to claim that without things being perceived there is > no motion, and that therefore there is no 'actual' motion which is > anthropomorphic nonsense.... > > > If the computation is the perception? My beef with your thinking is that > you take perception as a passive relation and not an action. > > > > > The perceptions of individual organisms are just subsets of the overall > universal computation. They have nothing to do with the fact that the whole > universe is being actively computed. > > > Sure, it is being computed piece-wise by all of its participants. There is > not need to propose a separate computational space, until we get into > specifics of physics. A "mind" for this simplistic toy model of what I > advocate, is the computation and involves self-modeling at some level. > Self-modeling need not be complete self-simulation, it only need to compute > the relative position of the fingers and toes, for example. > > > > > Edgar > > > On Tuesday, Jan > > ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
