On 04 Feb 2014, at 18:32, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/4/2014 7:51 AM, David Nyman wrote:
Fine, but then if you genuinely seek to criticise it in its own
terms, as you appear to do constantly, then the usual rules of
engagement are that you cannot in all reason subsequently quarrel
with the stated assumptions unless they lead to a contradiction *in
their own terms*. That is what Bruno asks for in a public
discussion and it is a very different enterprise than substituting
a completely different set of assumptions somewhere in the middle
of the argument.
I don't think there's anything wrong with criticizing a theory on
something other than "it's own terms". I think Craig might accept
Bruno's argument as valid but regard it as a reductio against saying
"yes" to the doctor.
I have often suggest this to Craig, but it does not seem to buy that
argument. For him the "non-sense" is already at step 0.
Of course Crauig should love UDA, as it is very close to a refutation
of comp.
But then he can hate AUDA, as it shows that such a refutation is
premature. The self-reference kick back, and transforms what looked
like a contradiction into just some amount of weirdness. But thank to
QM, we are prepared to some weirdness, like MW.
I have criticized it for it's seeming lack of predictive power - a
problem with all theories of everythingism so far, and also string
theory.
That is a technical issue only. As comp has to predict or re-predict
all of physics, it is hardly not predictive. In particular, comp +
Theaetetus already provide the logic of the observable, and up to now,
it fits with the facts.
This will help us to improve physics. Well, not in the short term, but
the goal is to formulate the mind body problem, and see the shape of
the solution, not to improve physics, even if it changes it
considerably at the conceptual level (physics re-appears as a
computation statistics calculus).
Bruno
Brent
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