On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 02:57:15PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> 
> On 05 Feb 2014, at 02:37, Russell Standish wrote:
> 
> >
> >I understand that Bp&Dt gives one of von Neumann's quantum logics, but
> >it still seems an enormous jump from there to the FPI,
> 
> It will be the other way round. By UDA we have the FPI. To translate
> that FPI we need to define "probability or measure on consistent
> extensions" in arithmetic. By the FPI, to say that I will necessary
> drink coffee after the WM-duplication, means that I will get coffee
> in all consistent extensions (here W and M).
> 

I don't see how a probability=1 concept helps with the FPI, which
requires probability < 1 (p=0.5 at a minimum, for two equally probable
possibilities).

> The []p will ensure that p is true in all accessible worlds.
> 
> But unfortunately, []p is true for all p in the cul-de-sac world (a
> future exercise for Liz!), which shows that provability is not a
> probability, nor a measure of certainty. To get the certainty, we
> have to explicitly assume at least one accessible world, and this is
> done by imposing "<>t", which imposes one accessible world, and
> makes disappear the cul-de-sac possible situation.
> 

I appreciate the no cul-de-sac result in the []p&<>p hypostase, but
does that really mean much when Kripke frames are lost? I guess you
replace Kripke by Scott-Montegue, is that right?

> 
> 
> 
> 
> >or to call the
> >Deontic relation a Schroedinger equation, even a little abstract one.
> 
> The deontic relation is []p -> <>p.
> 
> The "little schroedinger equation" will be
> 
> p -> []<>p (together with []p -> p),
> 

Ah - it was 15 years ago when I read your (Lille) thesis
cover-to-cover. My confusion no doubt comes from you introducing both
concepts on the one page. I still slightly get the french words
"encore" and "deja" confused, because they were introduced on the same
page in my French text book.

> It is the one bringing back the symmetry, and leading to the quantum
> logic, and the proximity spaces (where the measure will live),
> thanks to Goldblatt results.

I'd be interested in the "proximity spaces". Is this a new result, or
just some speculation?


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