On 3/7/2014 4:23 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 04:02:46PM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Brent,
Yes, exactly. The agreement of nearly all minds on the values of empirical
observations is truly remarkable. The vast edifice of science whose
accuracy is confirmed by the incredibly complex technologies based upon it
would not exist if this were not so. So there is quite obviously some
actual universe 'out there' on which minds in general agree no matter how
minds work...
How does this follow? Couldn't it be possible that our observations
agree (more or less) with each other because we (as observers) are
more less similar to each other?
And looking at different things? If we're similar to each other, then similarity of
observation implies similarity of the observed. But I think Edgar is confounding
"observations" with "theories", or he's not allowing for the different degrees in which
theories contribute to observations. We're very different from Nagel's bat, so we don't
perceive the elasticity to objects with our vision as a bat does with sonar. But we both
form a three dimensional model of space.
Brent
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