Brent, I agree that we can use our OBSERVATIONS of the dimensional relationships of particulate events to construct a meaningful THEORY of space. Newton did it. But Einstein found that it really didn't quite work out and came up with a new theory. But now we know that doesn't quite work out either and we need a new theory that unifies QT and GR and resolves quantum paradox.
So now I suggest a new THEORY to address these problems. So NO, I am NOT confusing observation and theory. I'm going back to the actual ontological nature of the actual observations and working from there towards a new theory of dimensional space. And I claim that though the OBSERVATIONS are empirical and repeatable, that the THEORY of space is a logico-mathematical construct or edifice, rather than anything physical. Edgar On Friday, March 7, 2014 8:37:48 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > On 3/7/2014 4:23 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 04:02:46PM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > >> Brent, > >> > >> Yes, exactly. The agreement of nearly all minds on the values of > empirical > >> observations is truly remarkable. The vast edifice of science whose > >> accuracy is confirmed by the incredibly complex technologies based upon > it > >> would not exist if this were not so. So there is quite obviously some > >> actual universe 'out there' on which minds in general agree no matter > how > >> minds work... > > How does this follow? Couldn't it be possible that our observations > > agree (more or less) with each other because we (as observers) are > > more less similar to each other? > > And looking at different things? If we're similar to each other, then > similarity of > observation implies similarity of the observed. But I think Edgar is > confounding > "observations" with "theories", or he's not allowing for the different > degrees in which > theories contribute to observations. We're very different from Nagel's > bat, so we don't > perceive the elasticity to objects with our vision as a bat does with > sonar. But we both > form a three dimensional model of space. > > Brent > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
