Brent, I agree that we can use our OBSERVATIONS of the dimensional relationships of particulate events to construct a meaningful THEORY of space. Newton did it. But Einstein found that it really didn't quite work out and came up with a new theory. But now we know that doesn't quite work out either and we need a new theory that unifies QT and GR and resolves quantum paradox.
So now I suggest a new THEORY to address these problems. So NO, I am NOT confusing observation and theory. I'm going back to the actual ontological nature of the actual observations and working from there towards a new theory of dimensional space. And I claim that though the OBSERVATIONS are empirical and repeatable, that the THEORY of space is a logico-mathematical construct or edifice, rather than anything physical. Edgar On Friday, March 7, 2014 8:37:48 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > On 3/7/2014 4:23 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 04:02:46PM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > >> Brent, > >> > >> Yes, exactly. The agreement of nearly all minds on the values of > empirical > >> observations is truly remarkable. The vast edifice of science whose > >> accuracy is confirmed by the incredibly complex technologies based upon > it > >> would not exist if this were not so. So there is quite obviously some > >> actual universe 'out there' on which minds in general agree no matter > how > >> minds work... > > How does this follow? Couldn't it be possible that our observations > > agree (more or less) with each other because we (as observers) are > > more less similar to each other? > > And looking at different things? If we're similar to each other, then > similarity of > observation implies similarity of the observed. But I think Edgar is > confounding > "observations" with "theories", or he's not allowing for the different > degrees in which > theories contribute to observations. We're very different from Nagel's > bat, so we don't > perceive the elasticity to objects with our vision as a bat does with > sonar. But we both > form a three dimensional model of space. > > Brent > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
