On 16 May 2014 15:23, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > Imho this depends on whether comp and the capsule theory are correct - > i.e. whether "yes doctor" is a good bet. It can only be a good bet if there > is nothing supernatural involved, if physical continuity isn't important > (which requires that eliminativism is wrong, I think), and if there aren't > any infinities getting in the way of perfect duplication (e.g. if > space-time is a continuum then exact duplication is unlikely, even in an > infinite universe). > > And the doctor chooses the right level of substitution. Certainly we > don't need exact substitution; we're not exactly the same from day to day, > much less year to year. But I think we need to be embedded in a physical > environment with which we interact. >
Yes, an environment as well, of course. What Max Tegmark calls the level 1 and level 3 multiverse duplications include the entire universe, I think. He is assuming everything is quantised (of course). > If exact duplication of a conscious person is possible at any level, then > it should be possible to instantiate the same person in other parts of an > infinite universe, in other parts of the multiverse, in computer > simulations, > > I agree, assuming that there is enough "world" also instantiated around > him - which I suspect is A LOT. > Yes. Max Tegmark talks about duplicating Hubble spheres, which I'd say can reasonably be called a lot. and in Platonia (the last one assuming Bruno knows what he is talking about and computations exist in some useful sense in Platonia). I think that's technically true, but misleading because in the Platonia > instantiation there will have to be a "world" instantiated there too. I > don't think a consciousness can exist in isolation (at least not without > falling into do-loop) and so then we will have a simulated world with the > instantiated consciousness in Platonia. But how is that different from a > world outside Platonia? How is it different from this world? > According to comp it isn't. > "Simulated" doesn't really denote any distinction when it refers to a > whole world (ever read Stanilaw Lem's "The Cyberiad"?). > Yes, I've read The Cyberiad many times, as well as lots of other things by Mr Lem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
