On 13 Jun 2014, at 01:29, meekerdb wrote:

On 6/12/2014 9:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Further more, I'm not even sure that the reductionist program of looking for what's most fundamental (in a TOE) and reifying it is the right way to look at things. It leads to making strings or numbers, which we never experience, "real" and everything we experience (on which we base or theories) "illusory". I think this called the error of the misplaced concrete.

In that case we are just no machine and should never accept an artificial brain (or UDA is invalid of course).

That doesn't follow.  The doctor can still make a prosthetic brain.

Then you have to assume matter, and some magical non Turing emulable "essential" property, like its "real existence" to get consciousness (and prevent it in the arithmetical reality). that is akin to non-comp.

That's confusing (computation theory of mind)->(doctor can make artificial brain) with (doctor can make artificial brain)- >(computational theory of mind).

Well, I was assuming you intended the guy to survive with the prosthetic brain.

We have by definition:

comp theory of mind <-> doctor can make (in principle) a successful artificial brain.

Bruno


Brent

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