On Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:37:25 PM UTC+1, Brent wrote:
>
> On 6/14/2014 1:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: 
> > If there were a reason why a primitive matter was needed (to select and 
> incarnate 
> > consciousness), there would be number X and Nu which would emulate 
> validly "Brunos and 
> > Davids" finding that reason, and proving *correctly* that they don't 
> belong only to 
> > arithmetic, 
>
> ?? Why might that not be a truth of arithmetic that is not provable? 
>
> Brent 
>
>
> Allowing the logic that a robust theory is its final product including 
only the consequences actually worked through, and only as far as they are 
worked through. The rest being philosophical or non-distinct. 

Also allowing that a robust theory in science speaks to an 'objective 
reality' in which for the same knowledge and accuracy, the same final 
product will materialize by *any* of whatever alternate theoretical routes 
exist. 

THEN the logic is that while there are playoffs between going for simple 
initial postulates and computing from there, or devising more abstracted 
postulated relevant to the whole domain defining the final product, there 
cannot be a knowledge lighter or heavier route between such alternate 
paths. 

If you go with simple initial postulates, then all you do is transfer the 
problem to the computation of consequence section. 

It is NOT logical to speak of simple postulates with non-distinct 
consequences for some apparently reasonable much larger domain, as equal to 
a theory that is robust across that domain. Like Relativity. It's immensely 
robust across a very large domain. Would it have been equal had Einstein or 
whoever, produced a theory that *suggested* a nature across the same 
domain, but offered no worked through methods and equations for that 
domain? 

This sort of thing was fairly understood by the geniuses of yesteryear like 
Richard Feynman. What happened while I was getting stoned all those years? 
Did someone overturn these understandings? 

 

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