On 14 Jun 2014, at 20:37, meekerdb wrote:

On 6/14/2014 1:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
If there were a reason why a primitive matter was needed (to select and incarnate consciousness), there would be number X and Nu which would emulate validly "Brunos and Davids" finding that reason, and proving *correctly* that they don't belong only to arithmetic,

?? Why might that not be a truth of arithmetic that is not provable?

p and ~[]p, like Gödel's sentence?

In this case it would be ~p and []p. despite "[]" correct.

In this reasoning we presuppose only arithmetic, which I think is neutral on primitive matter (even if not neutral on primitive matter appearance from inside). p is false.

Would it be true, the reversal would be even more fantastic: the existence of *primitive* matter would be a theorem of arithmetic.

Bruno






Brent

which would be false, and that is a mathematical contradiction, even if those Davids and Brunos are zombies. That makes physicalism just logically incompatible with mechanism (and that argument is simpler than step 8).

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