On 25 June 2014 16:52, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 6/24/2014 2:29 AM, LizR wrote:
>
>  On 24 June 2014 17:04, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>> If primitive matter existed, and if it has a role for consciousness, or
>>> for consciousness instantiation, step 8, and the argument above, makes that
>>> role very mysterious, so much that it is not clear why we could still say
>>> yes to the doctor in virtue of correct digital rendering.
>>>
>>
>>  You can still say yes to the doctor because he is going to use matter
>> to make your brain prosthesis.
>>
>
>  Surely that will just be a copy that thinks it's you - it won't be you,
> so if you are destroyed in the process of making the digital copy, you
> really do die. While in comp the digital copy *is* you, by definition.
>
>  ?? Comp is the theory that it will be you after the doctor gives you a
> prothesis for your brain (plus some other assumptions).  It will be you
> even after you are duplicated (though it's troubling for JKC that "you" is
> both singular and plural).
>
> Yes, that's right. And primitive materialism would distinguish between two
identical versions of you, if only because they occupy different positions
(and due to no-cloning). So a PM copy could only ever be a "copy that
thinks it's you", while a comp copy would be one that actually is you
(assuming comp is correct, of course).

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