On 1 July 2014 17:38, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 6/30/2014 9:03 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>  Well, that's quite straightforward. Brent is assuming the (so called)
> Aristotelean paradigm, and hence that his mother *is* her brain.
>
> I'm assuming (on some evidence) that she, her stream of consciousness, is
> what her brain does.  For example, she remembers her childhood very
> clearly, better than the recent past (like whether or not she's told you
> about her childhood in the last two days).  I don't see how this jibes with
> Kim's idea of "poor reception".
>

It *doesn't* jibe with it, that was his point.

As far as I can see, Kim is suggesting that "poor reception" - the workings
of memory, perception and so on - cause a consciousness which is basically
unchanged to appear different to the outside world. As he (?) says, one
doesn't feel that one's mind changes as one gets older, one feels that
external things have changed - e.g. my memory may fail me more, but (on
this view) that is an external thing, a piece of wetware, going wrong,
rather than something about me that has changed.

Apologies if I am misrepresenting Kim here, that was my reading. It seems
like a particularly clear cut distinction between the "Aristotle" and
"Plato" camps' views, which is why I tried to highlight that fact (if fact
it be).

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