On 2 Jul 2014, at 12:46 pm, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
Brent:
>> I don't think that's true. I think differently than I did as a child. As a
>> child one experiences many more things as new, fresh, surprising.
Liz:
>
> OK, so you disagree with Kim (or my reading of Kim) on that. You're on
> different sides in the "what is consciousness vs what are the contents of
> consciousness?" debate. Or indeed the materialist vs comp debate, which come
> to the same conclusion (physicalism = we are "nothing but" our memories,
> predispositions etc - consciousness is not anything fundamental, it is just a
> "user illusion," to quote Dan Dennett, a sort of glorified desktop created by
> the brain, with no user except itself. Comp = consciousness exists and is
> (more or less) fundamental.)
Kim: I am a self that has not felt any different throughout its existence. I
take from this that my self is one thing and then there is everything else,
including the body. I have never identified "me" with anything material. I
don't know what age I am. The self simply exists. It always did and it always
will. I have died a multitude of times and will yet die a multitude of times.
This is what life is. Death eternal. A brain simply hosts a self, best
generalised as a mind. This might be the same as soul, but I'm not really into
the supernatural, only a vastly expanded reality. I speak of phenomenon and
noumenon. Brain is phenomenon. Mind is noumenon, to be perfectly Kant for a
moment...
K
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