Le 29 juin 2014 18:33, "John Clark" <[email protected]> a écrit : > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > the H-guy cannot be sure about its future 1-view *from the unique 1-view > > > Unique? That implies that there is one and only one correct answer to the question of what the Helsinki Man will see, so after the exparament is over there should be enough information to know what that one correct answer should have been. So what was it? Would that that one unique correct prediction have been Washington or Moscow? > > Before you flip a coin you don't know if the correct prediction is heads or tails, but at least after you flip it you know what the correct prediction would have been; but in your thought exparament even after all the dust has settled there still isn't one correct answer. The difference is that although the bodies of the Helsinki Man is duplicated there is still only one Helsinki Man until one copy sees something the other doesn't. The Helsinki Man only turns into the Moscow Man when he sees Moscow and not before; so the only unique correct prediction is that the Moscow man will be the Man who sees Moscow. What more could you expect? > >>>> >>> predict with certainlty the unique city you will see >>> >>> >>> >> The city who will see? >> >> >> > The H-guy. > > > I predict that the H-guy will see Helsinki, unless you destroy him immediately after duplication in which case the H-guy will see absolutely nothing. I further predict that Mr. You will see Moscow AND Washington because MR. YOU HAS BEEN DUPLICATED.
I predict liar Clark will see spin up AND spin down... because under MWI MR. LIAR CLARK HAS BEEN DUPLICATED (yes I know it's a nightmare). > >> > you forget also the question asked, which is about what you will live [...] > > > What who will live? > >> >> > in the 1p sense from the 1p view and not any 3p view on where those unique 1-view appears. > > > That's just a tad too much peepee for my taste. > >> >> > You are not answering the question asked. > > > That's because the question asked is gibberish. You want to know which one of the 2 will see Moscow, but there is only one not two, there is no 2 until one sees Moscow and the other does not. The Moscow Man will be the one who sees Moscow, what more do you want me to say for you to count it as a successful prediction? > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
