On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Seeing might make you know *that* you see, but it does not entail that you >>> know *what* you see, as you might be dreaming or hallucinating. >>> >> >> That wasn't what I was implying... I see not point to "believe" or not >> "believe"... Why *shoud* I believe anyway ? >> >> >> because, if there is more than just this terrestrial life, your eternity >> might depend upon your belief, motives and consequent actions >> > > Why should it depend if I believe or not ?? > > > That would depend who is making the rules and what the rules are. If it is > for us humans to make rules, given our limited knowledge, desires, hopes > and wishes, we would probably do away with the need to believe. If the > rules are made by a superior intelligence who knows human potential: past, > present and future, then we really do not have a choice in the matter. > Again, you presume to know the intention of such possible intelligence and expose again the blasphemy problem, without clarifying. > Since we can flavour a mixed bag of good and bad, > I don't know what you mean with this metaphor. > happy and sad, fulfilment and deprivation, intelligence and ignorance, > great wealth and comfort in contrast with abject poverty and misery, and so > on, what makes us so comfortable that this cannot be repeated, and that > also in greater degree, indefinitely, perpetually? > This is possible; but only equally as possible that some lying evil god/devil made this world; and that any books, such as the Bible for example, based on a theological interpretation of this world, confuse therefore god with a devil. Following the Bible in this case, would run counter to the real god's will. If your god is the kind that is jealous if you worship other being, he will punish us for following the Quran or Bible in this case. Such god would logically punish us for not doubting the lies of the devil in the book. This is again part of why a punishing god is not very convincing: a god should understand that theology is not this simple. Now, we can turn the question around and ask: What makes you so comfortable the Quran is NOT upside down work of the devil, masquerading as god? > Don't you think it is being very bold and perilous to oneself to be > agnostic or atheist on such a thing? > I don't use atheist nor find the term convincing, but agnostic... because of these kinds of questions/problems, a skeptical agnostic stays silent and discuss/observe/doubt theology rather than preach it or try to convert others. PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
