On 20 Jul 2014, at 03:00, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:




On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:21 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
On 7/14/2014 7:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Now, if you are interested in experiencing the (rather common) God "hallucination", there are technic for that (fasting, sleep deprivation, magic mushrooms, LSD, salvia, near death experiences, etc.).

Really? That will allow me to see the unprovable truths of arithmetic? I'll be able to see whether the twin-primes conjecture is among them? Great.

Of course you have a point: 1p unprovable arithmetic truth can be bogus and tacky at times,

Arithmetical truth are true, by definition. There are also non refutable falsities, and Eric solved the problem I gave him, to prove that [PA + some consistent but false proposition in arithmetic] can augment the ability of PA to prove some true arithmetic statement, which explains why even "evolution", not just the government, can lie.

Bruno


which is assumed in the notion... but also nice at other times, like songs, good jokes, steering some fast vehicle or bike etc. PGC


Brent

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