On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 20 Jul 2014, at 03:00, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
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> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:21 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>  On 7/14/2014 7:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>> Now, if you are interested in experiencing the (rather common) God
>> "hallucination", there are technic for that (fasting, sleep deprivation,
>> magic mushrooms, LSD, salvia, near death experiences, etc.).
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>> Really?  That will allow me to see the unprovable truths of arithmetic?
>> I'll be able to see whether the twin-primes conjecture is among them?
>> Great.
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> Of course you have a point: 1p unprovable arithmetic truth can be bogus
> and tacky at times,
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> Arithmetical truth are true, by definition.
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I was referring to possible 1st person experience, and if my memory serves
me, not all of Ramanujan's visions were proven true.

Of course his success rate is tremendous (interesting question in itself,
this number...) and his presence on our historical map should represent a
firm argument for searching altered states and greater liberality and
humility facing others' pursuit of personal theology, whoever the gods.

Whenever I read posts condemning "some religious practice as obviously
ridiculous vs. the paradigms that I hold dear" and the smart huffing,
puffing, and flattery between similar position, I just shrug and think that
this just shows falling into quite obvious trap.


> There are also non refutable falsities, and Eric solved the problem I gave
> him, to prove that [PA + some consistent but false proposition in
> arithmetic] can augment the ability of PA to prove some true arithmetic
> statement, which explains why even "evolution", not just the government,
> can lie.
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Nice, but not the best news somehow... consistent but false. So we can
congratulate politician for upholding prohibition because it's only
"education"? Also is Eric's work you refer to on your site or online? PGC

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