On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:22 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:

>>> whatever a computer does is "just" the movement of electrons around
>>> circuits
>>>
>>
>> >> And whatever a human brain does is "just" the movement of molecules
>> and ions around neurons. That word  "just"  sure covers a lot!
>>
>
> > Hence the quote marks. Don't worry I "just" love being quoted out of
> context.
>

I wasn't trying to criticize you, I understand that you were using the word
"just" in the same way I was.

> If that proves a computer can't be conscious then it also proves that
>> humans aren't conscious; and except for me maybe that's the case.
>>
>
> > It supposedly proves that the materialist paradigm doesn't explain
> consciousness
>

Then it also explains why a human being can never be conscious, but I know
for a fact that at least one human being is. And if changing the material
in my brain changes my consciousness (and it most certainly does) and
changes in consciousness changes the material in my brain (and it most
certainly does) then in what sense does materialism fail to explain
consciousness?

> according to comp
>

I can't comment on that, "comp" means whatever Bruno wants it to mean, and
that changes from day to day.

  John K Clark

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