On 18 Aug 2014, at 20:28, meekerdb wrote:

On 8/18/2014 4:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The laws will always assured the existence of computations in which you survive, and have that quantum MW aspects, but in some consciousness state we might live some "phase transition" between different physical realms. Obviously, we cannot get a physical reality in which there is no observers at all.

Why not?

I think I answered this yesterday. I expressed myself badly here. We cannot get the "real" physical reality without observers, as it is define by the 1p FPI measure, which requires observers (universal numbers), but we can have, in UD*, digital approximations of such physical realities, and some can be devoid of any observers.



Are you saying there must have been observers in the early universe, even before the recombination?

No.



Must there be observers observing the interior of stars for them to be "physically real"?

No. Not even in the real physical reality. It is enough we share enough (deep) computations with the stars.



What does "physically real" mean in your theory?

It means it emerges from the first person indeterminacy, in the UDA way.

Bruno





Brent

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