On 8/20/2014 6:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 18 Aug 2014, at 20:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/18/2014 4:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The laws will always assured the existence of computations in which you survive, and
have that quantum MW aspects, but in some consciousness state we might live some
"phase transition" between different physical realms. Obviously, we cannot get a
physical reality in which there is no observers at all.
Why not?
I think I answered this yesterday. I expressed myself badly here. We cannot get the
"real" physical reality without observers, as it is define by the 1p FPI measure, which
requires observers (universal numbers), but we can have, in UD*, digital approximations
of such physical realities, and some can be devoid of any observers.
So you think the observers are needed in order to define measures and recover the Born
rule? But what constitutes an observer? Won't you need a measure on observers? This
seems to be the many-minds interpretation of quantum mechanics.
Are you saying there must have been observers in the early universe, even before the
recombination?
No.
Must there be observers observing the interior of stars for them to be "physically
real"?
No. Not even in the real physical reality. It is enough we share enough (deep)
computations with the stars.
What does "physically real" mean in your theory?
It means it emerges from the first person indeterminacy, in the UDA way.
??
Brent
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