On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:08 am, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > On 9/19/2014 9:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> I think that the cerebral stem + the cortex plays a key role, from the >> reading of Hobson theory of mind. I say more on this in "conscience et >> mécanisme", where I explained also why the Gödelian-Löbian Theatetus "[]p & >> p" saves machines and humans from Malcolm argument that machine can't think, >> and dream does not exist. >> >> Consciousness is a semantical fixed point which machine get when observing >> themselves, which they all do when having to survive in (a) rich and complex >> environment(s). > > So are they conscious only when "observing themselves"? > > Brent >
It's like a movie of a person standing stationary in a busy railway station while the background of bodies moves against the stationary fixed point. Consciousness is you observing (probably unconsciously I'd say) that you are the consistent stationary point against which the universe appears to move. Kim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
