> On 17 Oct 2014, at 3:58 am, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> On 10/16/2014 5:31 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: >> >> >>> On Thursday, October 16, 2014, David Nyman <da...@davidnyman.com> wrote: >>>> On 15 October 2014 14:38, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I guess he would say, as Dennett does, that zombies are impossible. >>> >>> But how is the statement "there is no subjective impression" consistent >>> with the view that zombies are impossible? Surely the very definition of a >>> zombie is something that possesses all the physical correlates of >>> subjectivity but lacks a "subjective impression"? That's precisely what >>> he's arguing for. >> >> If consciousness is merely a side-effect of conscious-like behaviour then >> zombies are impossible. >> >> I still maintain that the consciousness-deniers can't really think that >> they're unconscious since that would be absurd. > > Can I build a (not highly intelligent) robot who denies it is conscious and > really thinks so?
The robot could make the statement, the statement could be true, but I'm not sure about it really thinking it is true, since it could have no understanding of consciousness without being conscious. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
