On 28 November 2014 at 10:56, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 28 Nov 2014, at 8:41 am, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 28 Nov 2014, at 8:35 am, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 26 November 2014 at 22:52, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You need consciousness to develop intelligence, and you need intelligence >> to develop competence. >> > > IN my humble opinion you don't need consciousness to develop intelligence. > Large parts of our own brains behave intelligently - e.g. processing visual > images - without being conscious. Evolution has developed (relatively) > intelligent behaviour in animals and plants that are probably not > conscious. The immune response is certainly more intelligent (in terms of > keeping the organism containing it alive) than letting diseases kill it, > but I doubt it involves consciousness. > > > Does this mean my Kiwi-designed new $2000 Fysher & Pykel fridge is > intelligent? > > I mean, why not call an expensive and highly versatile gadget > "intelligent"? We already attribute competence to gadgets ("smartphones") > and presumably the more competent the gadget, the more it assumes qualities > and capabilities that remind us of ourselves which is probably explicable > in modal logic. A Universal Machine recognises another UM, clearly. The > only thing missing is the bad breath, the bad philosophy and the need to > whinge about everything (presumably Löbian qualities). > Indeed. Unless you're going to make intelligence out to be something only humans and maybe a few animals have then you have to admit that some machines can behave intelligently. Not sure about a fridge but I wouldn't be surprised. But my PC manages to be quite intelligent some of the time, and I doubt it's conscious, i.e. self aware, or with an inner narrative, or whatever the definition is at the moment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
