Moreover, this has happened before. In China, the dynasty in the 15th century, 
under a form of socialism, demanded by the Emperor, enacted rules that demanded 
that one couldn't do any other type of work other than what their father 
worked, that stole monies from any up and coming merchant or inventor, that 
withdrew the Chinese navy from exploration, which had sailed the mediterranean, 
and sailed to California. This is what socialists do, attempt to shrivel the 
individual in a supposed attempt to make things fair, which is never achieved. 
Never.   



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From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 10, 2015 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: Democracy


On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:08 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List 
<everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:



> Functioning anarchy would require a level of individual ethics that does not 
> yet exist



No, it's socialism that won't work unless everybody is a saint, and that's why 
socialist are always observed to be in a constant state of righteous 
indignation; people aren't behaving as he wants then to behave and as they must 
behave for his system to function. In general I can only think of 3 ways to get 
anybody to do anything, force, love, or trade. I think most of us would agree 
that all else being equal force is the least desirable of the three. Love is 
very nice and it works for some things but any economic system that must rely 
on people loving each other is just not going to work. So unless somebody knows 
of a fourth way that I haven't thought of there is only one thing left.

The farmer grows my food, the trucker moves my food and the grocer sells my 
food, I didn't make them do it and none of these people love me,
yet the free market plunges them into a conspiracy to put food on my table. 
Capitalism can efficiently create wealth even if everybody is just looking out 
for themselves, I know of no other economic system that can do that.


  John K Clark 






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