John, But trade need an environment where some force and some love are necessary. Trade without enforcement of contracts does not work. Neither work without some sincere love for what one does and for the well being of the client. trade without force need an utopic quantity of love. trade without love need big quantity of force.
It is a pity to see all these modern ideologies that are nothing but simplifications and adaptations of Christian concepts. No political system is better than other. The Christian call for a personal revolution, called conversion, to change what is around and have a better society, not a political change. Paul called for the obedience of the Cesar, and the Cesar at that time was Nero. Only by the example or testimony of each one that changes the people around, the system will mutate to a better one. Even if formally does not change. And the contrary the better political system will decay if the people do evil. No society will be free from corruption since it is in human nature. In contrast the liberal sectarians of the ilustration and the french revolution though that a political change would change fundamentally the society for a better one without previously changing the people. That does not work. After that, the socialist sectarians fo the comunist revolution though that a violent social change would create a new Man. That didn't work too. What is next? the sectarian culturalist though.... All of them are bad and cheap copies of the Christian conception of salvation, escatology etc. But it is better to call things by his name. Democracy is an ideological lie. There is no such thing as democracy. There is the law of majority. and the result is not what the majority think, but what the elite -that they admire and obey- think. At the end the formal system does not matter 2015-01-10 19:40 GMT+01:00 John Clark <[email protected]>: > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:08 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Functioning anarchy would require a level of individual ethics that does >> not yet exist >> > > No, it's socialism that won't work unless everybody is a saint, and that's > why socialist are always observed to be in a constant state of righteous > indignation; people aren't behaving as he wants then to behave and as they > must behave for his system to function. In general I can only think of 3 > ways to get anybody to do anything, force, love, or trade. I think most of > us would agree that all else being equal force is the least desirable of > the three. Love is very nice and it works for some things but any economic > system that must rely on people loving each other is just not going to > work. So unless somebody knows of a fourth way that I haven't thought of > there is only one thing left. > > The farmer grows my food, the trucker moves my food and the grocer sells > my food, I didn't make them do it and none of these people love me, > yet the free market plunges them into a conspiracy to put food on my > table. Capitalism can efficiently create wealth even if everybody is just > looking out for themselves, I know of no other economic system that can do > that. > > John K Clark > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
