RE: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

Mon, 12 Jan 2015 20:13:50 -0800 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to 
dialectics?

 

 

 

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:14 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List 
<[email protected]> wrote:

 

I share that sentiment; western mass media seems to only care about loss when 
it is their loss. 

And, in cases, such as this recent act of terrorism, the reflexive Neocon clash 
of civilizations call goes out to solve the problem with yet more boots on the 
ground; invading yet more lands; haven’t we learned after bombing Iraq for some 
twenty five years (if you begin the count from the war’s first movement in the 
early nineties… and for thirty if you count the Iran-Iraq war, in which the US 
secretly armed and backed Saddam Hussein’s regime) that the muscular military 
option has only produced a de facto state of permanent war with no solution!  
Clearly the dismembered former nation state of Iraq is not better off now than 
it was before they got a massive dose of Operation Iraqi Freedom, but also the 
US, especially amongst industrialized countries has become changed for the 
worse; the loss of individual rights – even the age old right (from medieval 
times) of habeas corpus is under attack in this freedom loving country.

But hey it has been good for the MIC profit center –the US has not bombed Iraq 
into a magically becoming a “freedom loving western style democracy”, but a lot 
of money has been made by a very few people along the decadal road to failure. 
Permanent war is good for some business’ bottom lines; big fortunes have been 
made… at massive cost to the US economy and crumbling infrastructure, to Iraq, 
Afghanistan, and the American CFUs as well. CFU is an acronym George Bush 
senior used to use describing your average Joe; it stands for Cannon Fodder 
Units.

The world does not need another large scale war in the middle east; there are 
powerful forces that want that war however. Now talking – once again as they 
always do in times like these -- in Manichean terms about a clash of 
civilizations, and lining up support for the next major war. War is business; 
and these people mean business.

-Chris

 

Turkish minister Davutoglu said something equivalent to: "It's not acceptable 
to speak of 'Islamic terror', as we didn't label the attack in Norway, or 
Neo-Nazi Attacks in Germany to be 'Christian Terror'. All forms of extremism, 
including racism, are dangerous. No matter their origin. Let's refer to the 
specific group or individuals." 

Well put on his part… Terror is a tactic!

Yes, he is invested with Turkish interests at border in Syria.

 

 

Turkey has got its hands deep in the murky shit now going down in the Levant… 
dreaming of a restoration of that former Ottoman influence maybe.

 

But there is a point in valuing precision when we speak of this and take "no 
matter their origin" to not be literal reading of "all people are equal etc." 
but rather "Why should we perpetuate the way these people marketed themselves? 
Are we being payed to run their PR campaign?" PGC



And in the interest of precision the phrase “War on Terror!” Such an Orwellian 
turn of phrase for forever war, forever more!

Terror is a tactic! Wars are fought against specific enemies! A fighting force 
can develop counter measures for any set of tactics it encounters, but the war 
is waged against an enemy. What next a “War on Bad Manners”?

 

Any endless war is by its very nature Orwellian. Wars, if ever fought should be 
wars of necessity, declared and against a clearly defined enemy. It is 
impossible to completely eliminate terror – and some un-hinged American dressed 
in tactical cloths goes to a movie theater in Aurora Colorado and proceeds to 
commit mass murders (12 people died and 70 wounded) armed with multiple 
automatic weapons and tear gas grenades – well I am sure every single person 
who was in that theater was for sure terrified, traumatized and quite possibly 
still suffering PSTD symptoms from  *that act of terror* 

Terrorism comes in many guises and unhinged individuals are everywhere in every 
culture, unhinged individuals are susceptible individuals (often) and 
recruiters know this – just like cults except with a level of violence of a 
drug gang.

Furthermore the strategy of this long endless war has failed. Bombing people 
into freedom, it seems, makes them hate us. Each war breeds the  next war. 

And for some kinds of businesses the profits will start rolling in again (even 
more than they already have been rolling in for these same businesses). But 
then… when has there ever been a war without vultures and jackals picking over 
the carcass.

-Chris  

 

 

 

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