RE: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

Sun, 11 Jan 2015 17:24:53 -0800 

 

 

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Fur sure, Chris, except thanks to a progressive mindset put to policies, they 
will likely attack us first here as they did in Paris and in Aussie last month. 
No jaunt to Syria is necessary. Please leave the 'turn the other cheek, 
thinking' for the Jesus folk. To quote Leon Trotsky, Chris,  or paraphrase him 
rather, "You may not be interested in Jihad, but Jihad is interested in you!" 
All we have to is wait Chris. I'm sorry, but this is our lives, today.

 

Yes, I hear what you are saying… have heard this same old clash of 
civilizations line for fifteen years now… it is getting a little old and 
threadbare as an excuse for yet one more trillion dollar imperial over-reach in 
the middle east. 

We need to take care of our own land, of our own people.

Your luridly paranoid fear of ISIS invading the US, bringing Jihad to our 
shores is your own personal  medical problem; deal with it! 

Like a good Neocon you beat this clash of civilizations meme – over and over – 
whipping up enthusiasm for war. Same kind of “you(s)” who have never been in a 
war; never seen what war is and what war does, which is why you are 
collectively known as Chickenhawks.

Go fight your own damn crusade, leave the rest of us out of it.

Statistically people in the industrialized countries have a greater chance of 
dying from a bee sting than they do of dying from an act of terrorism; 
shouldn’t that be what drives our relative lack of concern?

Furthermore the muscular military solution you favor is the engine of hatred 
that keeps the war on terror going (is this going to be forever war?); going 
and bombing Iraq into Freedom has proven that strategy bankrupt, yet isn’t this 
what you would like to see… more boots on the ground, some more Fallujah(s) 
perhaps even a few Abu Ghraib(s) as well… 

As long as you personally don’t have to see any action (Chickenhawk)

That script has had its day on center stage; just how has Operation Iraqi 
Freedom turned out? Excuse me if I offend you, but I find Neocons to be 
spiritually revolting human beings, wishing death, tragedy and sorrow upon 
other people’s children; always seeking to involve our country in yet another 
overseas war (which they never fight themselves).

Enough with this low energy; what you are militating for is a global bad acid 
trip; just what our world needs.

-Chris

 

 

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Subject: RE: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to 
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Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:57 AM
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Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to 
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Should the US then send drone strikes on Muslim newspapers and magazines for 
using their cartoonists and TV shows 'attacking' the US-a rhetorical question 
indeed. Eventually, there might be a true clash of civilizations, more than we 
have now. Right now, I would say, the Islamists are winning, because of 
passivity on the part of the so-called liberals, progressives, who see Jihadis 
as a means of weakening the west, so they can take over by default. The 
communists in Germany during 1930-33 agreed to stage street fights in order to 
better destabilize the Weimar Republic, their common enemy, and we all know how 
this worked out. 

If you desire a clash of civilizations so much… you should head off to Syria 
,young man and join in the clash. Kindly leave the rest of us out of your 
insane dystopic future.

-Chris

 

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Sent: Sun, Jan 11, 2015 2:58 am
Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to 
dialectics?

 

 

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:09 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List 
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On 11 January 2015 at 15:50, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote:

When people criticise others' faiths, firstly it hurts others feeling making 
the criticism fall on deaf ears.

 

>>When people criticise others' faiths, it's more than feelings that get hurt. 

 

Have you seen the cartoons… that went beyond criticizing or poking fun at 
someone else’s faith… the portrayal of the prophet (for those of that faith) is 
obscene, insulting, gratuitously degrading in overt sexual manner meant purely 
to offend. It has no redeeming quality to it. They published a stream of 
disgusting bigoted religious, ethnic and racial stereotypes; not just a single 
time – it was that papers bread and butter  -- including such gems as a 
stereotypical portrayal of pregnant African woman (with exaggerated racially 
offensive features and fat post rape bellies) with the caption casually and 
cruelly calling them welfare mothers. That is just offensive to me, in the 
fucking extreme. It is pornographically ugly racist & sexist hate speech to 
portray those underage victims like that – IMO.

I defend their right of free speech in the same manner as I defend the right of 
the KKK or Nazi skinheads to march. Free speech is only free as long as it 
extends to even the most obnoxious hate groups (including the racist newspaper 
Charlie Hebdo)… Free speech extends to racists, fascists, sectarian, 
nationalist, and ethnocentric bigots. I abhor their message, yet support their 
right to speech *on principal* -- even though they would and are doing their 
best to take away my freedom of speech.

But there is nothing noble or ennobling about Charlie Hebdo, or the hateful 
racist people who made a living producing and disseminating such racist filth 
and ethnic hatred. The person I feel sorry for is that poor on duty cop, who 
got wasted. 

 

For those who may not be following the news, please note that this cop was a 
Muslim, who gave his life defending the right of free speech of the people who 
were insulting the cop's religion. 

 

 

As for the editor and staff they got the Darwin Award as far as I am concerned. 
Fuck them, they were fucking racist assholes who did their best to make this 
world uglier and bring it down to their level. 

The Takfiri Salafist brainwashed assholes who did this are also exemplars of 
the same disease, coming from a different direction. Nor am I sad that they are 
dead either. 

I abhor and condemn their actions, and don’t think anybody should die for 
expressing their thoughts – even if those thoughts are repugnant racist crap 
like Charlie Hebdo excelled at sullying the earth with. But in the same breath, 
I find nothing, even remotely admirable in the ugly stereotyping ethnic hatred 
that was their staple fare.

Nor do I mourn their loss, they did their level best to piss off 1.2 billion 
people on this planet and eventually some really pissed off violent crazies – 
from the group their hate speech targeted – took matters into their own 
murderous hands. 

It also would have been much preferable if the terrorists had been captured 
alive, so they could have been tried for their crimes like common criminals. 

-Chris

 

Thank you Chris for your post -- appreciate it!   

Samiya 

 

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