On 1/18/2015 10:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Jan 2015, at 10:32, LizR wrote:
Clearly one cannot disbelieve in God without knowing, or at least having an idea of,
what God is. Personally I don't disbelieve in God, I merely find the idea highly
unlikely and don't find that it contributes anything to discussions such as "why is
there something rather than nothing?" So I am agnostic, as I am about all the other
gods, not to mention Santa, who I recently saw on "Doctor Who".
(Of courseI do believe in Daleks
<https://mayaofauckland.wordpress.com/2014/12/27/rub-vigorously-with-nuns-preparation/>...)
If you believe in Daleks, you believe enough to believe in the God of the machine. We
need it, to use the theory of machine's dream as an explanation why we see physical
universes and sometimes pink elephants, despite nothing like that really exists.
I give the math to see if we get right the number of pink elephants in the many-dreams
(by number) interpretation of elementary arithmetic (0 I guess, and hope).
Keep in mind that God is defined by being the object of the theory of everything, or, by
definition, the answer we look for with the question "why is there something instead of
nothing?".
The question is not if God exists or not. But if
But that's silly. You presume God exists, but with no description, so the only task is to
find a description to go with the word "God". If you're going to ask whether something
exists that cannot be defined ostensively, then you need to define it by description.
Otherwise it's just wordplay. Compare:
The question isn't whether Paul Bunyan exists or not. But if
Paul Bunyan = the physical universe?
Paul Bunyan = a mathematical structure? Which one?
Paul Bunyan = a dream by a universal machine?
Paul Bunyan = a sum on all dreams by all universal machines?
Paul Bunyan = the one who lost itself in a labyrinth of dreams?
Paul Bunyan = the one who plays hide and seek with Itself?
Paul Bunyan = the universal person?
Paul Bunyan = the universal person completions? (if that exists)
Paul Bunyan = Allah?
Paul Bunyan = Jesus?
Paul Bunyan = Krishna?
Paul Bunyan = my tax collector?
Paul Bunyan = the one who made the cat in its own image, and then made the humans to gives
the vat the modern comfort, with TV nad bag of catnip?
etc.
Brent
God = the physical universe?
God = a mathematical structure? Which one?
God = a dream by a universal machine?
God = a sum on all dreams by all universal machines?
God = the one who lost itself in a labyrinth of dreams?
God = the one who plays hide and seek with Itself?
God = the universal person?
God = the universal person completions? (if that exists)
God = Allah?
God = Jesus?
God = Krishna?
God = my tax collector?
God = the one who made the cat in its own image, and then made the humans to gives the
vat the modern comfort, with TV nad bag of catnip?
etc.
"Theo" in greek run around the idea of contemplation, examination and speculation. A
religion is only an as large as possible conception of reality, and God is a nickname
for what is real,
That's disingenuous. "Reality" is a common word, so we don't need a nickname. You seem
to be just making up excuses to use "God".
Brent
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