On 15 Feb 2015, at 17:08, Samiya Illias wrote:
You can invoke God to tell to the others what is right and wrong.
You apply such belief to yourself if you feel it, but it can only
concern a relation that you have with God, and God can have other
relations with other people.
Yes, of course.
Of course I meant "You can't invoke God to tell the others what is
right or wrong.
Are you still OK?
On the contrary. I have complete the theory before studying the
entheogen, I try to see if some experience could refute the theory.
It is normal when interested in consciousness to explore the other
consciousness state. I do think that during all night, everyone,
sometimes, go in some of those places, which are typical "rest
place" of the sleep.
May you find the truth, and be pleased with what you find. Amen.
Platonist are immune again literal interpretation of any experience;
we just don't believe in what we see. Salvia is trickier because the
experience itself explains that the experience is an hallucination,
and so as an Epimenidean outlook.
Salvia is classified as a dysphoric (unlike sex, coffee, chocolate,
tea, opiates, alcohol, cannabis, sugar which are euphoric).
It is not a pleasing experience.
It is not pleasing, but it is instructive in the 1p way. There is
nothing usable to convince anyone there, but it leads to new questions
of the type of those we can make precise when assuming computationalism.
Just give me sometime to try to sum up the key things. Do you know
what is a function from N to N, where N is the set of the natural
numbers N = {0, 1, 2, 3, 4 ...} ?
Would you prefer I don't ask you question like that ?
It is a good start, but only a start. Finding what is common in all
those messages can be helpful to eliminate the cultural superstition
from the important invariants, and possible truth.
Indeed. Perhaps each has some piece of the puzzle.
Ah! :)
Every living thing we know dies and we are constantly witnessing
birth and death all around.
In a collective dream, perhaps. Seeing someone dying is hardly a
proof that his first person experience is terminated.
The living cannot communicate with the dying/dead anymore. Don't
know about the dying/dead person's first person experience. There is
definitely a 'life-changing' experience there.
We cannot know, but we can reason from assumptions, and if we assume
digital mechanism, it might be that the experience would corresponds
with a shifting of consciousness from the mode with <>t (the Z and X
logics) to those without (S4Grz, G, G*).
All texts, all theories, all reports, all journals, all books, can
and should be put in doubt, always, if you are confident enough in
the search of truth.
Agree in principle, differ in detail.
Hmm...
No.
Thank you for the math lessons.
Best wishes and take care,
Thanks Samya.
Tell me if you understand what follows.
Proposition: an infinite sequence of 1 and 0 defines a subset of N,
and vice versa.
Explanation
We write the set of all numbers, and below, we write 0 or 1 according
to the fact the number is a member or not of the subset.
Exemple:
The finite set {0, 1, 2} corresponds to 1110000000...
The set of even numbers {0, 2, 4, ... } corresponds to 101010101010...
The set of odd numbers {1, 3, 5, ... } corresponds to 0101010101...
OK?
Subset of N and infinite sequences of 0 and 1 are basically the same
thing, they are characteristic of each other. OK?
Note that the empty set { } corresponds to the sequence 0000000....
And N itself corresponds to the sequence 1111111...
Tell me if this makes sense to you.
Best,
Bruno
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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