On 16 Feb 2015, at 20:14, David Nyman wrote:

On 16 February 2015 at 18:29, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

The faith step is assuming arithmetic.

It's always been clear that Bruno's work is effectively an enquiry into whether something as apparently simple as first-order arithmetical relations are nonetheless a sufficient ontological basis for the full range of observable phenomena. We could argue till Kingdom Come about the nature of the 'existence' or otherwise of arithmetic and get precisely nowhere, faith or no faith. Alternatively we could put the assumption to the test, or perhaps more realistically, continue to follow with interest Bruno's indefatigable investigation of its possible consequences.

As with any hypothesis, any securely established conflict with the empirical facts would suffice to invalidate it. Contrariwise, especially given the startling (but certainly not unmotivated) simplicity of the assumption, the longer it can resist refutation the more interesting it may begin to look. I really don't see that it need be any more controversial than that.


Indeed. I don't think that there is any controversy. My work is ignored, only. My original "enemies" did not believe in quantum mechanics, artificial intelligence, theoretical computer science, not mentioning consciousness, mind, Everett, etc.

I still have no clue if that ignorance is due to ideological reason or just due to the will of saving the notoriety of some people who have demolish it without even reading it, as they report shows.

It is a very modest work. The only radical thing is that it shows that science has not decided between Plato and Aristotle, and some scientists have never think about that, because they don't even believe in a science of consciousness or mind, despite mechanism and computer science. Well, I remember that they did not even believe in computer science, and some of them, evn in logic. Some mathematicians believe only in analysis. They can be quite conservative. They defend corporatism, not ideas, actually.

Bruno



David

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