Brent: cute. You said already something similar earlier. What I am asking
is the raport  WHY we say "the chair has mass" and "we expend energy" - in
a scientific  explanatory sense.

BTW I tried (and failed) to pick up a proton to experience its 'mass'.
According to some physicists it also has som indeed.

With that darn energy it is different. Perhaps you remember my
meta(physical) narrative about the 'everything' (Plenitude) with its strict
rules of even more than a perfect symmetry and the inadvertent exchange of
all components resulting sometimes in some (super)closeness of 'similars'
(complexity)  breaking such symmetrical equilibration and causing what I
call "a universe" seeking to re-equlibrate into the Plenitude's symmetry
and dissipate into it. That TREND may be what we observe here, in our
universe, and call it 'energy', the re-dissipation into a non-binding. You
may think about the FINAL result of such energy-dissipation as the Big
Crunch (infinite entropy?).
Don't take my word for it.
Have a good day
John M

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:26 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2/23/2015 11:48 AM, John Mikes wrote:
>
>> Liz: any idea what  - MASS - anad - ENRGY- 'may' be? (not from the
>> equational recourses based on the supposition of their 'existence' in
>> science!)
>> JM
>>
>
> You want a pre-theoretic idea of mass and energy?  Pick up your chair and
> lift it over your head ten times.  That chair has mass and you're tired
> because you expended energy.
>
> Brent
>
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