On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 , LizR <[email protected]> wrote: >What would be a suitable underlying means by which the universe might > operate, that it makes things happen at random? >
Huh?? You've got to think what "random" means, nothing made "it" happen, "it" is a brute fact..I don't find it astounding that some things have no cause, I find it astounding that some things do. > an imagine things that might appear random to us, but are actually the > result of deterministic forces operating on scales we can't probe - e.g. > string vibrations. But genuinely random - that seems to me to require > extraordinary evidence. And we do have extraordinary evidence, Bell's inequality is violated. > Some backup for the above two extraordinary claims would be welcome. > (1) that brains aren't Turing emulable at any level > If some new fundamental laws of physics were found to be operating in human brains that could be evidence that it's not Turing emulable, but nobody has found even a hint of that. (2) that there is a mechanism by which the universe might generate truly, > rather than apparently random events. > Mechanism?? If a mechanism produces it then it's not random. Randomness is a event without a cause, and I don't see anything more illogical about that then a event with a cause. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
