On 1 April 2015 at 22:18, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On 01 Apr 2015, at 02:05, LizR wrote:
>
> Well, no, there is no TOE that describes all features of the physical
> universe yet.
>
>
> But if comp is true, there is. If comp is true, the theory with the axioms
> Kxy = x + Sxyz = xy(zy), or elementary arithmetic HAVE TO describe all
> feature of the physical universe. If not comp is false.
> With comp, we cannot add anything to elementary arithmetic or to any
> sigma-1 complete set. That is the point of the reasoning. That we don't
> succeed, or have not yet extracted it is another point. The TOE is there.
> All the physical (but non geographical, nor historical) feature of physics
> must be explained by elementary arithmetic, or computationalism is false.
> That follows from the UDA.
>
> OK, but as you say - if comp is true. And I'm not saying you need to prove
it's true because I know that's impossible. But as far as I know, no one
has yet derived a convincing amount of physics from comp, so we don't yet
have convincing evidence that it may well be true, if you see what I mean.
(I think Bruce says the same thing in a post i'm about to read!)

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