On 8 May 2015 at 13:05, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 8 May 2015 at 12:14, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 03:14:42AM +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
>> >
>> > Why can't playing the equivalent of a recording made de novo (i.e. there
>> > was no original) instantiate the conscious moment for the first time?
>> >
>>
>> That is such a fantastically improbable outcome that Harry Potter
>> universes are mundane occurrences, and we might as well admit magic into
>> our explanations of reality.
>>
>> Seriously, in that case, all bets are off. Arguments based on
>> intuition (such as the MGA) just fail under those circumstances.
>>
>
> Another possibility - suppose we develop AIs, and they boostrap themselves
> into benig vastly cleverer than us - might they not design conscious
> experiences that have never been experienced before directly, as an art
> form, say?
>
> "Brave new world" started this trend with the "feelies".

The trend might go something like

Books and recorded/invented experiences reenacted "live" (plays etc)  -
primitive VR (lose yourself in a good book)
Recorded sound
Recorded vision
Sound and vision
Recordings of experiences through the senses (tapping into nerve channels)
Ditto including emotions
Ditto including thoughts
All of the above, created "de novo" by artists and/or computer programmes

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