On 8 May 2015 at 15:40, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 01:21:10PM +1200, LizR wrote:
> > >
> > > Another possibility - suppose we develop AIs, and they boostrap
> themselves
> > > into benig vastly cleverer than us - might they not design conscious
> > > experiences that have never been experienced before directly, as an art
> > > form, say?
> > >
> > > "Brave new world" started this trend with the "feelies".
> >
> > The trend might go something like
> >
> > Books and recorded/invented experiences reenacted "live" (plays etc)  -
> > primitive VR (lose yourself in a good book)
> > Recorded sound
> > Recorded vision
> > Sound and vision
> > Recordings of experiences through the senses (tapping into nerve
> channels)
> > Ditto including emotions
> > Ditto including thoughts
> > All of the above, created "de novo" by artists and/or computer programmes
> >
>
> There is no problem if created by computer programs. After all, COMP
> is the assumption that this is possible.
>
> What is the problem is if these new "thoughties" pop into existence on
> their own without any process leading up to them.
>
> Only from the viewpoint of unlikelihood (about the same as the
materialisation of a Boltzmann brain, I would imagine). But that doesn't
make any difference to any philosophical implications!

....however, yes, that was why I suggested an alternative mechanism that I
think people may feel is more plausible.

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