On 8 May 2015 at 05:14, Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> On Thursday, May 7, 2015, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote:
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> All computational supervenience gets you is that two counterfactually
>> equivalent programs will generate the same conscious state. All bets
>> are off with counterfactually inequivalent programs that nevertheless
>> result  in the same physical state. For that you additionally need
>> physical supervenience.
>>
>> The whole business of the recording is how can that physical apparatus
>> replaying the conscious moment actually be conscious, when it is not
>> aware of the environment. As far as computationalism is concerned, the
>> experienced moment has already been experienced, at some previous time
>> and place (there and then). Replaying the recording makes no
>> difference whatsoever. Yet the same sequence of physical states takes
>> place, so in some sense by physical supervenience a new conscious
>> moment is created. I don't think it can be, and I don't think this is
>> what physical supervenience can actually mean.
>>
>
> Why can't playing the equivalent of a recording made de novo (i.e. there
> was no original) instantiate the conscious moment for the first time?
>

Assuming a recording *can* be conscious (i.e. that the MGA's conclusion
isn't absurd) then of course it can be.

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