On 5/12/2015 9:28 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 02:15:59PM +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
Not necessarily. Simulated beings could be conscious with their simulated
brains.
In which case their consciousness supervenes on their simulated
physics. This is still physical supervenience, of the sort Bruce was
talking about.
Exactly my point about consciousness supervening on the abstract computation. In order
for it to do so the abstract computation must also provide an abstract physics within
which the consciousness is realized. So it's just an AI in a virtual environment
supervening on the virtual physics...which makes it indistinguishable from a real
environment with a real being's consciousness supervening on real physics. I think Bruno
agrees with this. He recognized the necessity of physics, he just wants it to be as
"virtual" as the AI.
Brent
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