On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >> Tough, being outnumbered a hundred to one in a debate is nothing new to >> me, and a hundred people may be chanting the same gibberish but that >> doesn't make it any less idiotic. If nobody else knows what I'm talking >> about then I must be smarter than everyone else on this list. Yes that >> sounds very egotistical but too bad, I'm right and their ideas are so bad >> they're not even wrong. > > > > > It would be better you ask yourself why you can't explain the point to > anyone. > Probably because personal pronouns are as common as the air and most of the time there is no need to think deeply about either one so generally people don't; but when drowning people should think about air, and when using duplicating chambers it is advisable to think about personal pronouns. > > > Step 3 is still a nursery step, compared to step 7 and 8. > If that is true then given that step 3 is crap and that errors in proofs always propagate I can logically conclude that steps 7 and 8, whatever they are, would have to be mega-crap. > > > the worst are boring vocabulary issues > I'm not surprised you find it boring. It's probably because you find it boring that you have spent zero time thinking about it and just assume that words like "you" and "he" and "I" and "THE first person view" are obvious even in a world with matter duplicating machines. But they are anything but obvious and that is exactly why your "proof" is ridiculous. > > > it is because the Helsinki man is in both W and M after the duplication, > that the Helsinki man, when still in Helsinki, cannot predict which city he > will feel to be in > And the above is a good example of what I'm talking about when I say personal pronouns can hide a lot of sloppy thinking. I will change the personal pronoun "he" in it to the thing it refers to: " it is because the Helsinki man is in both W and M after the duplication, that the Helsinki man, when still in Helsinki, cannot predict which city the Helsinki man will feel to be in " W hich city ? If as you say "t he Helsinki man is in both W and M " why on earth would you expect just one city to be the correct answer to that question? And I can already hear Bruno's answer, he will say "I'm talking about the 1-view" as if there is no need to specify whose 1-view he's talking about because doing so would be boring. > > > which have no consequences on the way to test comp > Not interested. I don't care about "comp" or any of your baby talk or countless homemade acronyms that nobody except those on this list have ever heard of. John K Clark > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
