On 8 September 2015 at 08:52, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/09/2015 8:11 am, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, Brent Meeker < <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On 9/6/2015 10:49 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: >> >> >> On Monday, September 7, 2015, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 9/6/2015 7:20 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> $2, because you can just say "Monday" each time you're asked. It has >>>> nothing to do with probabilities. It's a good analogue of the MWI problem; >>>> when everything is deterministic and everything happens there's no >>>> objective measure. >>>> >>> >>> There are many "interpretations" of prboability: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability_interpretations >>> >>> I think the thought experiment I describe is an example of probability >>> under the "frequentist" definition. >>> >>> >>> No, there's no randomness in it. There's no distribution to approximate >>> in repeated trials. >>> >> >> It's the same kind of randomness that emerges from multiverse theories. >> >> >> Right, a kind which doesn't (in most models) have a probability >> interpretation because there's no clear measure. >> >> You presumably estimate probabilities in everyday life, and generally it >> serves you well. >> >> Sure, I make subjective estimates by hypothesizing some ensemble of >> possibilities with a measure on it - but I don't infer from this that all >> those hypotheticals really happen or that the probability I come up with is >> an objective fact about the world. >> > > But can you infer something about the nature of the world from the fact > that probabilities seem to be useful? > > > Only that none of us is omniscient! > If all possibilities are realised then we are in a sense omniscient - although it is not a useful omniscience since we cannot say which possibility we will see next. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
