On 26 October 2015 at 17:43, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > On 10/25/2015 11:32 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > > On 26 October 2015 at 17:08, Bruce Kellett <bhkell...@optusnet.com.au> > wrote: > >> On 26/10/2015 5:01 pm, Russell Standish wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 03:40:45PM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: >>> >>>> I think Carroll's Paradox (or 'What the Tortoise Said to Achilles') >>>> effectively undermines computationalism, or any argument that >>>> arithmetic is prior to physics. >>>> >>>> See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Tortoise_Said_to_Achilles >>>> >>>> In order to escape the paradox, you have to resort to a formalist >>>> approach, and that renders the formalism devoid of semantic content. >>>> >>>> I don't see why that undermines computationalism. Could you please >>> expand? >>> >> >> Modus ponens is only a formal manipulation of symbols, with no semantic >> content. > > > This is an argument John Searle has made. The problem is, the brain can > also be described as manipulating symbols with no semantic content - so > where does semantic content come from? > > > From interaction with a world. > And the same could be said for a computer - a real or virtual world. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
