On 26/10/2015 5:32 pm, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 26 October 2015 at 17:08, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 26/10/2015 5:01 pm, Russell Standish wrote:

        On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 03:40:45PM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote:

            I think Carroll's Paradox (or 'What the Tortoise Said to
            Achilles')
            effectively undermines computationalism, or any argument that
            arithmetic is prior to physics.

            See:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Tortoise_Said_to_Achilles

            In order to escape the paradox, you have to resort to a
            formalist
            approach, and that renders the formalism devoid of
            semantic content.

        I don't see why that undermines computationalism. Could you
        please expand?


    Modus ponens is only a formal manipulation of symbols, with no
    semantic content.


This is an argument John Searle has made. The problem is, the brain can also be described as manipulating symbols with no semantic content - so where does semantic content come from?
I can point at it, or when I kick the dog, he yelps.

Bruce

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