On 07 Apr 2016, at 04:38, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:

Would anyone smart and sensible that Conways Life is really a type of short lived computational life?

Conway's life is Turing complete, like numbers + addition/ multiplication. You get everything computable from it, so it can be used as (mathematical) ontology. Again, the modalities appearing from inside are forever incomplete. Some pattern will not stop evolving, despite no pattern, nor any machine, could ever know if it will stop or not. Likewise, you will get the non provable, the non knowable, the non observable from it. Physics and theology does not depend on the base chosen (be it Conway's life, numbers, combinators, etc.). The measure problem we have discussed all along is the same, whatever the Turing-universal base is chosen.

Bruno




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From: John Clark <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Code: The Origin of Life


On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:11 PM, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote:

​>​I have no DEFINITION for life

​I don't either but it doesn't matter because I ​ ​have EXAMPLES of life; and examples are almost always better than definitions.​

 John K Clark






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