I get caught up in semantics, I suppose, because this brain isn't hard wired 
for math, as opposed to most of this mailing list, so here I go. How do we 
define matter, and how do we define energy. Is an electron or photon or 
neutrino matter, or is it energy because it moves? Is energy matter in motion. 
Basic newtonion mechanics, perhaps, but for me, it still need to be defined. 
When matter gives off heat, we are speaking of photons, correct? Photons, 
wiggling infrared, ultraviolet, x-ray?



-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Jun 7, 2016 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: Aristotle the Nitwit







On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:52 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:



​
​>> ​
INTEL must be making a mighty good assumption because it gets the job done. If 
you don't make INTEL's assumption then you can't calculate ​2+2.




​> ​
That has nothing to do with the fact that I 
​





​"I" is made of matter that obeys the laws of physics.​
 
 


​> 
can prove that the computation of 2+2, and all the others, exists independently 
of me,





Matter that obeys the laws of physics is required not only to make calculations 
but also to make proofs. 
Matter that obeys the laws of physics is required
​ even to make assumptions. Without matter nothing changes, nothing is doing 
anything.




 John K Clark




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