On 07 Jun 2016, at 21:26, John Clark wrote:



On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:52 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

​​>> ​INTEL must be making a mighty good assumption because it gets the job done. If you don't make INTEL's assumption then you can't calculate ​2+2.

​> ​That has nothing to do with the fact that I ​

​"I" is made of matter that obeys the laws of physics.​


If that were true, you would die when we throw out your actual matter and give you a digital body, physical, or virtual-physical. With computationalist technology, you can change your body every day, and can use from times to times virtual bodies and immersion in different type of reality. (All this before getting the point that this "already happened an infinity of times in the elementary arithmetical reality, so that you still survive in the virtual-arithmetical.







​> can prove that the computation of 2+2, and all the others, exists independently of me,

Matter that obeys the laws of physics is required not only to make calculations but also to make proofs.

You confuse the number 2 with the number of ears of the average rabbit.

You just believe in a pseudo-God and use it, as it is the main use of pseudo-god, to prevent an inquiry and an attempt to provide a testable answer to a problem. You are just not listening to a problem. Your maneuvers at UDA step 3 are rather gross in that regard.

Bruno





Matter that obeys the laws of physics is required​ even to make assumptions. Without matter nothing changes, nothing is doing anything.

 John K Clark


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