On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I am still waiting for an explanation about your two recent posts which > contradicted themselves. What are you talking about? > > The first person remains singular for both copies. Yes, and BOTH copies are absolutely convinced that they are the Helsinki man and BOTH are correct, I think you agree on that. So it makes sense to ask what one city the Moscow man sees and it makes sense to ask what one city the Washington man sees but it makes no sense to ask what one city the Helsinki man will see. > > One is: > > I am in Helsinki. I push on a button. I find myself in a box, I open the > door, and I see Moscow. (and for Bruce: and yes, I am conscious of Moscow > and of my consciousness (life, experience, first person stories) here in > Moscow. > > I definitely get the bit "M". Bruno continues to use a personal pronoun smokescreen to cover logical contradictions. *I* have defined "*I*" as any chunk of matter that behaves in a Johnkclarkian way, and before* I *pushed the button *I *already said that* I* would see Moscow and turn into the Moscow man, and that is exactly precisely what happened. So *I *did not receive one single bit of new information after *I* pushed the button. > > The other is: > > I am in Helsinki. I push on a button. I find myself in a box, I open the > door, and I see Washington. (and for Bruce: and I am conscious > of Washington and of my consciousness (life, experience, first person > stories) here in Washington. I definitely get the bit "W". *I* have defined "*I*" as any chunk of matter that behaves in a Johnkclarkian way, and before* I *pushed the button *I *already said that * I* would see Washington and turn into the Washington man, and that is exactly precisely what happened. So *I *did not receive one single bit of new information after *I* pushed the button. No need for Bruno to post a reply, *I* already know Bruno's response,* I *confuse the peepee with the poopoo (or maybe it's the poopoo with the peepee). But *I *have already given a clear non contradictory definition of the personal pronoun "*I*", what is Bruno Marchal 's meaning of that word? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
