On 25 September 2017 at 22:34, Terren Suydam <[email protected]>
wrote:

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> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:51 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Terren Suydam <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>>> Then we agree that expectations are important, since the wrong ones can
>>> kill us.
>>>
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>> ​
>> Forget important, expectations are not even meaningful in thought
>> experiments involving people duplicating machines if
>> ​ ​
>> it is not clearly stated what is being expected.
>>
>
> You're arguing against things I haven't said. To be frank, I tuned out of
> the John Clark/Bruno Marchal wars sometime last year... after a few dozen
> times around that carousel I wanted off. So don't assume I'm going to say
> something Bruno is saying. I do expect (ahem) to be able to clearly state
> was is being expected in the thought experiment, without requiring personal
> pronouns.
>
> But before we continue, I need to be sure we agree that from your
> first-person perspective, when it comes to making decisions based on some
> future state, you only have the contents of your mind to work with. Your
> mental model, your worldview, pick whatever language you like, it's what
> gives you a sense of what to expect, and therefore the only basis one has
> for placing bets. Do you disagree?
>

​First rule of Fight Club​: Don't expect to win in any continuation.
Second rule: Don't even think about expecting to win in any continuation.
Third rule: You will not win in any continuation.

Well, you know what result to 'expect' by now.

David



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