On 25 September 2017 at 22:34, Terren Suydam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:51 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Terren Suydam <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > >>> Then we agree that expectations are important, since the wrong ones can >>> kill us. >>> >> >> >> Forget important, expectations are not even meaningful in thought >> experiments involving people duplicating machines if >> >> it is not clearly stated what is being expected. >> > > You're arguing against things I haven't said. To be frank, I tuned out of > the John Clark/Bruno Marchal wars sometime last year... after a few dozen > times around that carousel I wanted off. So don't assume I'm going to say > something Bruno is saying. I do expect (ahem) to be able to clearly state > was is being expected in the thought experiment, without requiring personal > pronouns. > > But before we continue, I need to be sure we agree that from your > first-person perspective, when it comes to making decisions based on some > future state, you only have the contents of your mind to work with. Your > mental model, your worldview, pick whatever language you like, it's what > gives you a sense of what to expect, and therefore the only basis one has > for placing bets. Do you disagree? > First rule of Fight Club: Don't expect to win in any continuation. Second rule: Don't even think about expecting to win in any continuation. Third rule: You will not win in any continuation. Well, you know what result to 'expect' by now. David > > Terren > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

