On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 at 8:02 pm, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >>> I do expect to survive the >>> copying process >>> , even better I expect I'll have a backup, although why my expectations >>> should be of interest to anyone but me I don't know. >>> >> >> Then the question “what future experiences will I have” is not >> nonsensical. >> > > It's not > nonsensical > in our everyday world to ask "What one and only one city will I see > tomorrow?" because it's clear what "I" will mean tomorrow, but people > duplicating machines don't yet exist in our everyday world because of > technological, not philosophical, limitations. In our everyday world the I > of tomorrow has a unique unambiguous meaning, the only being tomorrow that > will remember being John Clark today. > > >> > >> If it were then I could not have the expectation of surviving, >> > > The nonsense question is NOT "Will I survive tomorrow after I have been > duplicated?", that is a real question with a real answer; and it is yes > because something (actually 2 things) tomorrow will remember being John > Clark today. The nonsense question is "What one and only one city will I > see tomorrow after I have been duplicated?" > > The question is “what city will I see tomorrow”. You know what a city is, you know what seeing is, you agree that I will survive so “I” has meaning for you. It seems that you agree the question is meaningful, you just don’t agree that I will see one city - which means that I will see two cities. But “I” is singular, and a single person cannot see both cities, as a matter of empirical fact. > >> I could not conceive of having future experiences if “I” loses meaning >> when I contemplate the post-duplication future. >> > > Sure you can, you can conceive of being in Santa Clauses's workshop if > you want; imagination is not limited by reality. > Imagination is limited by logic - I can’t imagine a square circle because it is meaningless. But I can imagine seeing one or other city with 1/2 probability; it is meaningful, it is what I anticipate will happen, and it is consistent with the reports of copies who have been through duplication multiple times. > -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
